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	<title>Comments on: Wake up, folks, Huffington is no Backfence</title>
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		<title>By: johnwilpers</title>
		<link>http://johnwilpers.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/wake-up-folks-huffington-is-no-backfence/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>johnwilpers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin: 

You&#039;re right. She doesn&#039;t pay any of the bloggers who appear on her site, and has no plans to pay them. For some (most?) of her bloggers, the exposure on one of the most popular sites on the Internet is enough, but I wonder how long that will last.

There is bound to come a day when those bloggers will wonder why she should make money off of their intellectual property and not share any of that cash. 

When I ran BostonNOW, we told our bloggers upfront that we would not pay them initially, as we were not making money yet and hadn&#039;t proven the model. But I was already meeting with the National Writers Guild to discuss working together to create blogger contracts as well as methods and amounts of payment, especially for those bloggers we excerpted in the paper (as that reflected a judgment on our part of their value).

I&#039;ll wager that when Arianna launches her local sites, she&#039;ll be able to pull in a large share of the local bloggers without paying them for two reasons: 1) Fame, just like the bloggers on her national site, and 2) The local metro daily won&#039;t publish them, leaving them no choice but Huffington for mass exposure.

We&#039;ll find out very soon in Chicago...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin: </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. She doesn&#8217;t pay any of the bloggers who appear on her site, and has no plans to pay them. For some (most?) of her bloggers, the exposure on one of the most popular sites on the Internet is enough, but I wonder how long that will last.</p>
<p>There is bound to come a day when those bloggers will wonder why she should make money off of their intellectual property and not share any of that cash. </p>
<p>When I ran BostonNOW, we told our bloggers upfront that we would not pay them initially, as we were not making money yet and hadn&#8217;t proven the model. But I was already meeting with the National Writers Guild to discuss working together to create blogger contracts as well as methods and amounts of payment, especially for those bloggers we excerpted in the paper (as that reflected a judgment on our part of their value).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll wager that when Arianna launches her local sites, she&#8217;ll be able to pull in a large share of the local bloggers without paying them for two reasons: 1) Fame, just like the bloggers on her national site, and 2) The local metro daily won&#8217;t publish them, leaving them no choice but Huffington for mass exposure.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll find out very soon in Chicago&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does she actually plan on paying people for content? Last I heard, her serfs work for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does she actually plan on paying people for content? Last I heard, her serfs work for free.</p>
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		<title>By: THE BLIND PEWS: The Top 10 Most Purblind Papers &#171; John Wilpers: The power of partnering</title>
		<link>http://johnwilpers.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/wake-up-folks-huffington-is-no-backfence/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>THE BLIND PEWS: The Top 10 Most Purblind Papers &#171; John Wilpers: The power of partnering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] About&#160;me        &#8592; Wake up, folks, Huffington is no&#160;Backfence [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] About&nbsp;me        &larr; Wake up, folks, Huffington is no&nbsp;Backfence [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Carlin would curse</title>
		<link>http://johnwilpers.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/wake-up-folks-huffington-is-no-backfence/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Carlin would curse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cubicles on the decks of their Titantics. They could start tracking how Arianna Huffington invades Chicago and how the Tribune reacts. They could explain how new tools &#8212; Twitter, Flip video cameras, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cubicles on the decks of their Titantics. They could start tracking how Arianna Huffington invades Chicago and how the Tribune reacts. They could explain how new tools &#8212; Twitter, Flip video cameras, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tish Grer</title>
		<link>http://johnwilpers.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/wake-up-folks-huffington-is-no-backfence/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Tish Grer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some very good points, John!  But I&#039;ve heard some interesting things from some bloggers, and there just may be a group that&#039;s going to stay independent.  In some regions, HuffPo&#039;s a lightning rod and is not perceived in a positive light--unlike Craigslist, which is seen as neutral and just providing a service.  So, whether or not bloggers sign up for HufPo may have to do with their particular political beliefs and if they&#039;re into the brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some very good points, John!  But I&#8217;ve heard some interesting things from some bloggers, and there just may be a group that&#8217;s going to stay independent.  In some regions, HuffPo&#8217;s a lightning rod and is not perceived in a positive light&#8211;unlike Craigslist, which is seen as neutral and just providing a service.  So, whether or not bloggers sign up for HufPo may have to do with their particular political beliefs and if they&#8217;re into the brand.</p>
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		<title>By: Obi's Sister</title>
		<link>http://johnwilpers.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/wake-up-folks-huffington-is-no-backfence/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Obi's Sister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but “HuffingtonPost/my name,” has NO APPEAL for me.  At all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but “HuffingtonPost/my name,” has NO APPEAL for me.  At all.</p>
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		<title>By: Arianna Huffington Schedules World Media Domination Appointment &#124; Peach Pundit</title>
		<link>http://johnwilpers.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/wake-up-folks-huffington-is-no-backfence/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Arianna Huffington Schedules World Media Domination Appointment &#124; Peach Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blog post here. What are you going to do to keep YOUR Georgia-based eyeballs off the Huffington New Media [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blog post here. What are you going to do to keep YOUR Georgia-based eyeballs off the Huffington New Media [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>http://johnwilpers.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/wake-up-folks-huffington-is-no-backfence/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re already seeing some newspaper websites adapt to the hyperlocal model. NJ.com has a few hyperlocal sites:

http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/

http://www.nj.com/morristown/

http://www.nj.com/newark/

Signs indicate that they aren&#039;t stopping there. Other places will likely be added. Also, they tend to be a mix between beat reporters, local citizens and community activists, which means that the quality of the writing tends to be more focused than the usual motley group of paranoid bloggers who write things like &quot;omgzors! bUsH is signing away our sovereignty to the NAFTA highway!&quot; or &quot;Obama wants to turn America into a radical muslim sect.&quot;

However, these blogs usually don&#039;t get printed, as far as I know. And Huffington certainly has more &quot;street cred&quot; among bloggers. She&#039;s not the establishment, which gives her a little bit of an advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re already seeing some newspaper websites adapt to the hyperlocal model. NJ.com has a few hyperlocal sites:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nj.com/morristown/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nj.com/morristown/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nj.com/newark/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nj.com/newark/</a></p>
<p>Signs indicate that they aren&#8217;t stopping there. Other places will likely be added. Also, they tend to be a mix between beat reporters, local citizens and community activists, which means that the quality of the writing tends to be more focused than the usual motley group of paranoid bloggers who write things like &#8220;omgzors! bUsH is signing away our sovereignty to the NAFTA highway!&#8221; or &#8220;Obama wants to turn America into a radical muslim sect.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, these blogs usually don&#8217;t get printed, as far as I know. And Huffington certainly has more &#8220;street cred&#8221; among bloggers. She&#8217;s not the establishment, which gives her a little bit of an advantage.</p>
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